ialization ofanc america. the huge mess of the money assembled by the financial sector and a very financialized group of people in the corporations did something else. if anything, of course, it has just gotten worse. >> in 1995, you did "arrogant capital, washington, wall street and the frustration of american politics." anything that comes to mind in particular when you look back on at? >> there are two types of arrogant capital in the united states. arrogant capital wall street and arrogant capital washington, d.c. >> "staying on top, the case for industrial strategy," "cause conservative america." >> the idea there was that you were not looking a traditional conservative under the reagan administration. i remember the howard jarvis tax revolution. you had a whole sequence of sort of radical conservatives. also, obviously, the beginnings of the religious right in the south. this was not a traditional conservatism. and so there is my post- conservatism argument. >> >> that was more the politics of the rich a